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Of Rats and Women

Well my Unfaithful, as they say – the plot thickens…

How apropos a statement, considering we have learned that not one, but three women have come forward claiming to have overheard incriminating statements made by Casey Anthony – while they too were in jail (Is there is no honor among thieves!).

Let us refer to these women as Rats and the evidence they would provide as Droppings.

Interestingly, little discussion has really been given to the legal and practical impact the Rat Droppings provide. But on closer examination, I think you will find that these Rats are a double edged sword for the prosecution.

The Facts

While incarcerated in jail, three Rats claim to have overheard or obtained incriminating statements made by Casey Anthony. These Rats are:

But most interestingly, the letters and statements were facilitated by an Orange County Corrections Officer – Shannon Hernandez (the Rat Herder).

The Law

As some of you may know, the Sixth Amendment prohibits law enforcement officers from interrogating a defendant after his or her indictment without counsel being present. See Massiah v. United States, 377 U.S. 201 (1964). Consequently, statements “deliberately elicited” from a defendant after an Indictment has been handed down are rendered inadmissible and cannot be used against the defendant at trial.

But what many of you might not have known is that this rule is applied in much less obvious situations – and may be satisfied by less direct types of questioning.

One of these situations is the use of the jailhouse snitch – more commonly known as a “Rat.” See Rolling v. State, 695 So. 2d 278, 290 (Fla. 1997) (Police can’t use paid informants to elicit incriminating statements, police can’t place radio transmitter on co-defendant.).

The Passive versus Active Analysis

Nonetheless, this rule does have its limits and focuses not on whether the statements were simply made to an inmate who had something to gain by obtaining them (i.e. a Rat), but on whether Law Enforcements actively encouraged the Rat to obtain the statements or actively assisted the Rat in obtaining the statements. See Maine v. Moulton, 474 U.S. 159 (1985) (A violation of a defendant’s right to counsel turns on whether the confession was obtained through the active efforts of law enforcement or whether it came to them passively.)

The Real Legal Question: Is the Rat Herder a Duck?

This brings us to the real legal question in this case: Will the Rat Herder, Orange County Correctional Officer Shannon Hernandez, be considered a state-agent for purposes of determining Active involvement on the part of law enforcement.

As a defense attorney, the answer to me is obvious – if it quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, and looks like a duck – it is a duck.

But the State will obviously argue that although a duck, she is not part of the State’s flock of ducks. Rather the State will argue that Correction Officer Hernandez was a rogue duck acting without state sanction or authority solely for personal purposes.

On this particular issue there does not seem to be any case directly on point, but if recent United States Supreme Court jurisprudence is any indicator, Judge Strickland would focus his analysis on whether suppressing the rat droppings would prevent future abuse or similar “rogue” actions by law enforcement officers in other cases. See Hudson v. Michigan, 547 U.S. 586 (2006) (U.S. Supreme Court opinion stating that when the exclusionary rule is to be applied, it should be applied as a sanction against law enforcement officers to prevent a future abuse by law enforcement officers.)

Quack, Quack, Quack…

Ultimately, I believe that if Judge Strickland is of the opinion that suppressing the evidence will prevent corrections officers from violating jail policies and engaging in questionable behavior in future high-profile cases (something Orange County has had a lot of lately), then I believe he will find this Duck is a State Duck.

Also, it is worth noting that we do not know the true relationship of Robyn Adams and Maya Derkovic (ironically, both of whom were arrested because they too were setup by other rats). And if anyone believes for a second that Maya Derkovic did not interpret Detective Brian Cross statement of “I bet you can get the truth out of her” as an implied directive, then you might want to read United States v. Henry, 447 U.S. 264 (1980) (Police conduct met the “deliberately elicited” standard where law enforcement officers contacted a paid informant in jail with the defendant and advised the informant to be alert to any statements made by federal prisoners, but not to initiate any conversations or question the defendant regarding his offense.)

A Brief Interlude…

I have taken a lot of flak lately for my criticism of Yuri Melich, the lead investigator in this case. (I mean , what detective doesn’t actively BLOG about an ongoing murder investigation – See WFTV: Detective Told To Stop Blogging About Case.)

Most recently I faulted him for reporting that Robyn Adams claimed Casey Anthony admitted to using Chloroform. This is in contrast to FDLE’s interview where Robyn Adams denied that Casey Anthony admitted using chloroform – rather they report Casey Anthony admitted to “knocking out” Caylee so she could put her to sleep.

So what I suspect happened is Detective Melich engaged in a little leading questioning, something like this.

  • Q: Did Casey Anthony ever mention something that would be consistent with using Chloroform to sedate Caylee.
  • A: Yes.
  • Q: Can you explain?
  • A: Casey said she used to “knock out” Caylee, whatever that means.
  • Q: Aha!

As you can see from this example, the questioning implies the answer – the very definition of a leading question.

So even though Robyn Adams never specifically stated that Casey Anthony used Chloroform, the implication that Melich lets linger is that Adams did say that.

Dangerous examples of this type of editorializing can just as easily be found in the media covering this case.

Take WFTV for example, they were in such a hurry to “break” the jailhouse letter story that they posted a false headline on their website (likely because of Melich’s misleading report), but then miraculously the headline changes once they ACTUALLY read the letters and saw there was no mention.

Think of how prejudicial this is to a person getting a fair trial, when a news agency reports false headlines about a person facing the death penalty?

Had Melich actually clarified this issue with Robyn Adams, it might never have been thrown into the media firestorm that Casey admitted to chloroform – thus allowing WFTV to further taint the potential jury pool.

A Final Note About Melich.

You may remember back when he stuck Casey Anthony in the medical ward with the specific intent that her reactions to news reports that a body was found in the woods near her home be videotaped – this is likely just as inadmissible as the Rat droppings that he is currently excited about.

You see, the Sixth Amendment (and the Fifth Amendment) protect you from being compelled to give testimonial evidence, not just statements. And Casey Anthony’s reaction to news reports (if even relevant to showing a consciousness of guilt, as opposed to a distraught mother) is considered a testimonial act under the law. And just like testimonial statements, testimonial acts are inadmissible when obtained by law enforcement in violation of the Fifth or Sixth Amendments. See US v. Green, 272 F. 3d 748 (U.S. 5th Cir. 2001).

The Ultimate Irony of Ironies

I would like to leave my unfaithful with this little tidbit to chew on, the Rat Droppings could be the best thing to happen to Casey Anthony since Andrea Lyons. Why you ask, good question.

You see, up until this point, Casey Anthony was the only person who could establish an “Accidental Theory” that Caylee was sedated. so Casey could go out and party. but when she returned Caylee had died in her sleep. Upon discovering this, Casey Anthony. not knowing what to do, freaks out, does her best to cover it up (Ugly Coping), and ultimately concocts the Zanny the Nanny story.

The reason – up to this point – was that only Casey Anthony could establish the Accidental Theory, as there was nobody else who would testify to knowing that Casey would sedate Caylee in any way (Xanax or Chloroform).

But now, if the State were to try and introduce the Rat Droppings as incriminating evidence, the defense would be able to use the Rat Droppings as evidence supporting the Accidental Theory WITHOUT Casey Anthony having to testify to the predicate facts.

From there, it would not take to much of a wordsmith to weave a compelling closing argument that the State’s theory is more compatible with a young mother who may have acted negligently in sedating her child so she could go out, but that she never intended to kill her daughter. And her post death actions are consistent with Ugly Coping – not a consciousness of guilty.

Finally, before all the haters jump up and down – I am not saying this approach is airtight, only that under the right circumstances it could work.

Correction and Deletion Note: It was brought to my attention that the State had in fact charged Aggravated Manslaughter of a Child, which I had either forgotten or overlooked. As a result I have removed two paragraphs discussing the effect of not charging a criminally negligent based crime – which the state in fact did. Thank you to the reader who pointed this out to me.

I may blog about this in more detail in the future – but I make no promises.

109 Comments

  1. Valhall says:

    Mr. Hornsby,

    Thanks for the very interesting and informative legal analysis of the implications of this whole mess. I personally (from my lay-person viewpoint) had viewed the letters as more of a God-send to the defense rather than some weapon for the prosecution.

    To me the letters, if introduced into the trial, show a number of things that could work toward a defensive strategy of accidental death:

    1. She’s mad as a bicycle in a non-insane kind of way;
    2. She’s emotionally equivalent to a 12 year old;
    3. She lives in a world of her own delusions and is constantly projecting those delusions forward to outrageous and unattainable fantasies.

    You put all those together and you get the perfect storm for introducing an immature, incompetent, partying mother who uses drugs, etc. to put her child down so she can do whatever pops into her immature, narcissistic head – which leads to an accidental death – and because of her out-of-touch-with-reality and psychologically unstable nature she panics, goes into “ugly coping”, and her “I can just lie and cover up what happened” mode.

    Now, the question becomes – is the defense going to be able to ever talk “Casey the Eraser Killer” into admitting an accidental death. This is where it gets interesting – I don’t think they can! And history has numerous cases with the same type of Eraser profile where the defendant, in their “world of psychopathy” has viewed “going to life sentence for being falsely accused” is better than admitting they could have ever have actually done something wrong – even when it means a lesser sentence!

    Sorry for rambling on such…but the implications and whether Casey’s psychopathy can actually allow what her defense has been given to assist in lessening her sentence is a very intriguing part of this latest development.

    1. elementary says:

      There is no such thing as “ugly coping”. It’s certainly not a psychological term nor validated in any type of psych literature; it was made up to defend the indefensible. Why are people discussing or accepting this ridiculous term at all as if it had validity?

      The perp is not “mad”, IMO. She is a psychopath. Psychopaths are not insane- their “non- insane way” is simply, that they know right from wrong. It’s not a mystery.

      Lots of people project, and have fantasies. The perp’s are just symptomatic of the innerworkings of a psychopath. She is not delusional. She is not out of touch with reality; she just chooses to ignore it for a fancier narrative. Neither is her personality “unstable”; it is consistent all round with being a psychopath.

      The refusal to admit responsibility is also part and parcel of psychopathy. That kind of hubris will never admit to anything especially when a big game is afoot. LE will never “break” her. She is never going to cop to an accidental death. I agree with you there.

      The perp is overweeningly arrogant and self-centred and lacks empathy. That is the source of everything else. I don’t see the letters as a god send at all. They just highlight her pathological lying, need for excitement, narcissism, and lack of grief at her daughter’s death.

    2. seemeatthebeach says:

      I totally agree with you Val….Casey, IMO will never admit to killing Caylee, even if her death was accidental.

  2. Klees^ortr says:

    Accidental death, maybe.
    How about the computer searches in March?
    What about all the unanswered calls to Cindy from Casey on June 16? Why didn’t Cindy take those calls? A fight the night before?

  3. Finally says:

    Richard,

    So what is your input on the newest news???

    “Casey Anthony defense team is asking that the judge in the murder case against her be disqualified because he has developed a “personal relationship” with a blogger who does not like Anthony.”

  4. Missy says:

    I also just heard about the Defense Team has filed a motion for Judge Strickland to be disqualified from the case. Somehow, I just think it is another Defense scheme. I don’t know if it was actually JB’s idea, I just can’t believe he would be that smart to think of something like that, but than I can see him do anything to take the spot light off of his antic’s and this case, to stall, or just throw another wrench in to do another twist and turn. I think Judge Strickland is a fair Judge, and I can’t see him doing anything illegal or against the System. The only thing I can possibly see, is that Judge Strickland has just been alittle easy on the Defense, and letting them have all this extra time for this and that, and not being prepared as we have seen so often. I can’t help but feel the Defense Team is so slimmy, and filing a motion just before the Clerks office was closing, you can see how they operate. Some may think they are clever at doing these last minute motions, or filing soo many at a time, but it shows me that they are spending all their time thinking of how to stall things, and accuse others – that is one reason why they aren’t prepared when they go to court. First of all they haven’t done their homework, and surely they know what the court expects. But the Defense doesn’t keep account records when it is to their benefit that it’s money in their pocket. So they spend their time trying to do whatever it takes to lie or deceive whoever or whatever they can to cause more problems. I must admit one thing. Casey and her Attorneys are a good match. Would love to hear your comments on what the Defense is or has done.

  5. emberl says:

    Marinada Dave is an idiot.
    He’s so full of himself.
    He just could not contain himself and brag about what the judge told him.
    Well guess what?
    That’s only Dave’s story.
    Marinada Dave has also suggested a person who sat next to him in court of being a child molester.
    He posted a picture of a real child molester, with the name of that person under it.
    I have the link.
    Of Course Dave deleted it.
    But it’s all over the internet.
    Dave needs to crawl under a rock and never see the day light again.

  6. seemeatthebeach says:

    Richard,
    I can buy the “accident” defense……until I get to the FACT 3 pieces of duct tape were placed across Caylee’s nose and mouth. …….that was no accident IMO

  7. Phyllis says:

    Richard,

    Is it commonplace for an attorney to actually name the investigator when they file a motion?

  8. PiQF says:

    Why did the defense file a motion to disqualify the judge? I know you’ve voiced that it’s a suicide move (literally) and I agree. However, can you please list the reasons (having been before Strickland) why you might file such a motion. Amusing they’re NOT making a bad move, what is the defense team thinking?

  9. amanda says:

    Would love for you to blog about the new death penalty motions filed!

  10. Darnudes says:

    Horndog – Where art thou?

  11. beach says:

    needing my bLAWg fix, Richard :)

    congrats on batting 1,000 in re. your predictions in re. the Anthony case.